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Professor Geertjan Overbeck Well, preventive youth care encompasses all care for youths, aimed at the prevention of mental health problems and disease. And I think why it is important is that, when you think about preventive youth care and you think about, in part, early identification of risk and screening efforts, and in another part, all of our efforts to ameliorate youth mental health, and strengthening their resilience, you see that it is very important to do that early on in life.
So, we know that once problems have developed, they tend to maintain or worsen over time, so prevention is our best cure in that sense, and maybe I can try to illustrate that by giving you an example. If you think about, for instance, a hardened criminal who’s been involved in a criminal career for a very long time already, has been involved for a very long time in a gang or another type of criminal network, and you compare this person to a 15-year-old adolescent who took a wrong turn and engaged in an act of vandalism, together with some friends, for the first time. You already see that it might be much easier for us to turn around this younger person towards prosocial functioning than the hardened criminal.
So, preventive youth care is all about that. If we are successful, potentially, in preventing risk and crime and more severe types of psychopathology in these 15-year-olds, potentially, we can be very successful for youth mental health. So, prevention in the long run and in the general population, I think, is going to be much more successful than curation. Also, if we can be successful in preventing early life risks to become full-blown psychopathologies, we are not only helping individuals, but we are also helping society at large.
Think about all the costs that we, as a society, have to invest in keeping up, for instance, our healthcare system, our mental healthcare system, our hospitals, our prisons, our social welfare and benefits system. So, if you think about those costs associated with the development of severe types of psychopathology in crime, you also come to realise that it’s very important to engage in as much prevention as possible.
We generally make the distinction between internalising and externalising type of problems in adolescents. So, with internalising, I refer to problems that are, psychologically speaking, inwardly directed. Think about anxiety and depression problems, for instance. And externalising problems, they refer to behaviour that are – that is outwardly directed. Think about substance use, for instance, disruptive or antisocial forms of behaviour, or delinquency and crime.
Well, our research has shown that especially family dynamics and parenting play an important role and later in adolescence, peer group dynamics and peer relations become very important. So, a recurrent finding in our longitudinal studies, in which we followed up youths and their families and their peers over time, is that in childhood, it is very helpful if parents can be warm and sensitive in their upbringing efforts towards their children and at the same time, if they can be very clear and consistent and mild in their limit setting. So, for healthy development, children need a clear structure, and they need a clear set of boundaries, and they also need a safe haven. And if parents can be able to provide that, they can do a lot to stimulate their children’s healthy socioemotional development and their self-regulation. So, that’s one key finding that we have.
We also see in our research that what happens in the early interactions with parents is actually carried forward to the peer context. So, I sometimes say that’s a labour of love. Children coming from warm, loving family backgrounds, they actually grow up to build more successful social bonds with their peers, over time, being more satisfied with their friendships and their romantic relationships in emerging adulthood. And these peer relationships, in themselves, they have a tremendously important impact on child development, as well. So, peers are very important socialising agents, for better or for worse.
So, in our research, for instance, we see that negative peer group dynamics, such as bullying, it can hurt youths to a great extent. But at the same time, we also see that the positive characteristics of peer relationships, like best friendships, friendships or romantic relationships, can also help to buffer against the negative impact of such peer dynamics like bullying, but it also can help to buffer against the development of mental health problems. So, peers are important overall. They help to build our resilience. They help to build our autonomy as individuals and our own unique set of identities.
That’s a complex question, because so much is involved and I think, first and foremost, that has to do with the type of mental health problem we are talking about. But at a fundamental level, I think what’s key, and this is still missing in a lot of our everyday practice, is that we work with a key set of evidence-based programmes, or programme elements, that we know work well, that we know saw a positive effect. So, in the Netherlands, our Dutch National Youth Institute has developed a, sort of, a database for effective youth interventions. What we see, actually, in this database is that the majority, the large majority of programmes in that database, has never been tested for its effect.
So, you can, of course, ask yourself, what does that mean? And it may mean a number of things. First of all, it may mean that we are wasting a lot of taxpayers’ money by implementing ineffective programmes that do not really help youths. On the other hand, it may also mean that some of those programmes are effective, but we do not really know how or for whom they work well. So, in that sense, we might be missing an opportunity to tailor our youth care in a better way, to tailor our youth care programmes exactly to those who need it the most. And there’s yet another option, and that is – and we have, like others, found effect for this in our – or found evidence for this in our studies, is that we may even thwart a heterogenic or harmful effect for some.
So, to give an example of this last point is, in my lab, we’ve done a study with postdoc Maud Hensums, on the effectiveness of antibullying programmes, and although we see that, overall, these programmes work very well, we also see that some elements actually backfired in some kids. So, for the kids who were already bullying, when these programmes were implemented, we found that if schoolground supervision was made more strict, and if school conferences were implemented, discussing the dynamics of bullying in a whole school context with a total group of students in the school, for these kids, bullying actually increased rather than decreased.
So, it just goes to show, really, that we have to be really careful when implementing youth care programmes. We do not just want to do that without a sound evidence base, and it’s also showing that it is very important that when we implement our youth care, that we always keep an eye out for monitoring our efforts, that we are really making sure that what we do has the effect that we expected. And also, that we keep an eye out for situations when the effect really isn’t the effect that we hoped for, or even is potentially harmful for kids.
Well, just like the family and the peer setting, schools are a very important developmental context for youths, and I always tend to think that youths do a lot more than just studying in schools. So, schools are places where children gain a lot of experience about what it means to belong to a group, to accord well with others and also, how to deal with difficult situations, as well, conflicts, bullying, not getting along. So, it follows, to me, that schools could and should take responsibility for the broader development of youths, not only look at their academic development, but also look at their socioemotional development, and most schools do this.
Although, of course, we know that many Teachers feel a little overburdened, having to take on multiple responsibilities, having to teach and also, having to be, sort of, a Health Psychologist, sometimes. So, there’s practicalities involved, and I generally advocate for the integration of basic developmental psychology courses in Teacher education programmes. So, now, the extent to which this can be financed is another discussion, as is the extent to which Teachers should be expected to take on multiple responsibilities, or perhaps social work professionals should be taken up in school life. But the bottom line is that schools, you know, are places in which youths develop, so the schools’ developmental context has to be supportive and safe, and this requires schools also to focus more on just the students’ academic development alone.
Well, there’s many, but I think one major challenge lies in tailoring. So, we generally know that our programmes, like parenting programmes, are overall, effective in reducing outcomes like child disruptive behaviour, for instance. Our research clearly shows that. At the same time, we also see that generally, our success as Interventionists is relatively modest, and to me, this signals there’s a great heterogeneity in the effects that, well, in this case, parenting intervention programmes sought.
So, some parents seem to benefit much more from these programmes from others, or certain parenting programme elements than others. And I think a key question is, why is that? So, one key thing that we need to do is to develop better insight into what works for whom. For which parents do we need to primarily, for instance, support the effective quality of the bond with their children? For which parents do we need to really put a lot of effort in, in repairing that bond? And for other parents, the question may be much more like, how can we support these parents with a hands-on training on how to implement positive reinforcement techniques, like praise or using tangible rewards? And yet, for another group of parents, the question may be, is a parenting programme the most suited form of help for them, or can we perhaps also redirect them, with their relatively mild questions or levels of stress, to an informal support network, or an informal help network?
So, I think that is one part of the answer, tailoring, and another part of the answer is that we have to overcome our weirdness at an intervention science. And what I mean by that is that we still know very little, much too little, actually, about whether some of our currently successful lines of intervention, I mentioned parenting programmes and whole school antibullying programmes, for instance, can be successful or even appropriate for non-Western, non-industrialised, lower educational settings. So, the need for successful prevention programmes is very high, for instance, in poverty ridden settings across Africa, to name one example. But as a global community, we still need to develop and build prevention efforts to support those communities in a culturally sensitive, empowering way. So, we need to still do a much better job with that, as well.
I think, for me, one of the most pressing questions I have at the moment is how we can use the benefits of technology and digital media use of youths to support our prevention efforts. So, much of our attention has been going, unfortunately, to questions like, what are the downsides and the pitfalls and the dangers of kids using social media? We have seen that TDM use, technology and digital media use, holds great benefit, also, for preventive youth care. So, potentially, it can make our youth care much more reachable for youths. It can also, potentially, make it much more enjoyable and immersive, and thus, engaging and motivating for youths. Think about gamified intervention models, for instance. And in this way, you know, our preventive youth care practices can also become much more effective, I think. So, that’s one very important road to travel.
And I also think that, as Intervention Scientists, we really need to unlock the potential of youth’s technology and digital media use much better, because potentially, when we unlock this potential, we can scale our intervention efforts in a much better way. So, to this end, at the University of Amsterdam, we have also developed a research priority area called “Youth Digitality” and we’re currently setting up a pan-European consortium, also, to look at the possibility of setting up a novel online prevention paradigm for youths, stimulating their resilience and their healthy lifestyles.