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Dr Keri Wong Hi everyone, I’m Dr Keri Wong, an Associate Professor of Developmental Psychology at UCL, and the Lead Investigator of the EMPOWER-Islington project. We’ll be talking about how we co-created mental health and life skill workshops with and for young people currently living in Islington Council, London. Meet my team. Sude Isil Bastug Hi everyone, My name is Isil. I am a final year BSc Psychology with Education student at UCL, and I was a Research Assistant in the EMPOWER-Islington project.
Jasmine Lee Hi, I’m Jasmine. I’m a first year UCL Wellcome Trust PhD student in Mental Health Science, and I was also working on the EMPOWER-Islington project as a Research Assistant. Areeb Ahmed Hello, My name’s Areeb, a young participant of the EMPOWER-Islington study, and ex-Deputy Young Mayor and Lead Youth Councillor for Youth Safety and Curriculum for Islington. Dr Keri Wong So, the EMPOWER-Islington project is the – is a partnership project between UCL and Islington Council. It involved creating and co-creating five workshops that help support young people and their life skills in terms of mental health and various aspects, as well. These five workshops involved empowering young people in telling and sharing their own story. It involved empowering their minds. It empower – it involved empowering their body, as many of them struggled with body image issues as well during the pandemic, as well as empowering their future, so thinking a bit more about what it is that they want to do career wise. And then, finally, the fifth workshop focused on empowering their habits, in particular, sleep habits and motivation to study and continue learning. So, each of these five workshops were conducted over a summer and involved co-creating the content, as well as the workshops, with young people, for young people.
Jasmine Lee I think researching mental challenges with young people creates tonnes of opportunities, because when you're involving young people in research, you're actually talking to them about what their priorities are, what their challenges are, instead of, I guess, in the past, a lot of research was about young people without directly engaging with them. And so actually researching with young people helps research improve, because it makes what we’re studying more accurate and more attuned to what young people’s needs are. At the same time, I think it creates also lots of opportunities for young people to participate in research. It almost, kind of, democratises research and then opens doors for young people to also get involved, which I think is of great opportunity.
Areeb Ahmed For me, personally, I would say that it’s allowed me to – well, the EMPOWER-Islington project and just researching mental health in general was able – has allowed me to be able to feedback to Islington Council and implement changes that I think would be necessary for the young people of Islington.
Sude Isil Bastug It is really important to give young people a voice in this topic, because young people feel that these topics are not talked a lot anymore. And a lot of the young people that participated and worked with us in our project really appreciated giving them a space to talk about their pandemic experiences, because they believe that they didn’t have a chance before to talk about these experiences and reflect back to them. So, they really appreciated having a space to talk about these experiences.
Jasmine Lee I think for me, it was really fun to do research as a young person and to participate in interviews and focus groups and have lots of chats with young people about what their COVID experiences were, but also, to be aware of the differences in experiences that different young people had and being aware that because of inequalities that some people were more disproportionately affected by it than others. So, it was really important and a great experience to learn more about that, but I also think that because we are young people ourselves, it made it a bit easier to talk to other young people and to just have a chat and have snacks together, which made it less daunting in terms of research. But it was also really interesting and rewarding to participate in different aspects of research, including dissemination, whether it’s doing animations or going to conferences, so it was a great experience.
Sude Isil Bastug I would definitely second Jasmine. I also really enjoyed being part of a research project as a young Researcher, I would say, and I also believe that it was really interesting to hear young people’s experiences about pandemic, and it was really interesting to see that some of us had similar experiences. For example, I was one of the few lucky ones and I had actually a positive pandemic experience, and it was really nice that some of the young people also had some positive experience. I think it gave me a hope, at least, and, also, I think it gave me an opportunity to be a part of a research project in real life, like, from be – from the beginning ‘til the end, and this wasn’t something that I had experienced before, especially in my modules. So, I had an opportunity to see, like, the challenges of real life research and, also, it helped me shape my future career, as well, because I decided that this was a path that I will like to take in the future. So, it was really rewarding.
Areeb Ahmed Okay, so what I would say about how it was, like, it was a very new experience, like, very special to me, as well, ‘cause a lot of the people in my age category and younger and older, they don’t experience research until they’re, like, above, like, sort of like, 20-ish. And because of that, I felt as if I was able to, I guess have an opportunity that not many people are able to have, so I really enjoyed working alongside the Researchers. And what I would say, the informa – like, generally, the information that was given worked quite well, and how it was delivered, too, through the activities. And I would say as - what could be improved would possibly be, like, the advertising and marketing, because the yield of the amount of young people that had come wasn’t as many as I feel the Researchers could've had.
Dr Keri Wong So, the short and long-term impacts of COVID on young people, especially on their mental health, was definitely widely researched by the community. I would say some of the short-term impacts, especially during the lockdown period and phases of COVID, you know, really restricted young people’s normal social lives, their normal relationships, and even character and personality developments, as well as, of course, education, as well. So, you know, many Researchers have documented this, showing the, kind of, more negative effects and impacts on young people’s mental health more broadly.
Obviously, this fluctuates, and when we look at this at a more longer term period of time, certain groups definitely rebound or are better, have better mental health after lockdown easing takes place and when they’re able to regain their liberties and socialise with others again, but certainly a subgroup of young people certainly have sustained negative impacts. And that’s really why it’s so important, still, you know, now that we’re, kind of, out of COVID, without maybe even the lockdown restrictions, there are still certain subgroups that are still impa – negatively impacted by COVID. And that’s why studies like this, where we get to hear from young people themselves, are so, so important in ensuring that much of this information is still relevant and valuable forming the support that we’re able to provide them in schools, in communities and so forth.
Areeb Ahmed What I would say is that the amount of space that’s available for young people to access mental healthcare, because there is a very big amount of pressure on the amount of, like, services that we have, due to the amount of young people that require it. And so, because of that, a lot of young people that need it, but not as, I guess you could say not as much as other young people, aren’t able to access it. And so, I guess the – yeah, I guess the five workshops were just good in creating – I guess, more teaching me the things that those mental health services would've taught me.
Jasmine Lee I definitely agree with Areeb in terms of pressures on mental health services, and the waiting times are very, very long for a lot of services. So, even if young people want to access it, it makes it a bit difficult, and otherwise, usually quite expensive as well, if they’re looking for treatment elsewhere. And I guess some young people might not necessarily be seeking treatment, especially if there’s a lot of stigma in their communities. So, yeah, there are all sorts of barriers to young people accessing the help that they may need.
Sude Isil Bastug I believe it is resilience, and, also, learning how to take care of your mental health. As Jasmine and Areeb mentioned before, it is really hard to access mental health support currently. And therefore, teaching young people, showing young people how they can take care of their mental health, through maybe developing hobbies or establishing good sleep routines, or maybe, like, teaching them how to narrate their own story in a different way, we can show young people how to take care of themselves in a better way. And I think that’s something that we also aim through our workshops, as well, empowering them with these skills so that they can take care of their mental health, even sometimes they may not be able to access mental health support.
Areeb Ahmed I feel like schools don’t teach you a lot of these skills, and so the five workshops were able to teach young people the skills in a very, like, informative, a very – yeah, an informative way, which was able to just make it stick inside of your head, rather than, like, a small assembly that was given by your school on how to just write a diary entry or something. Dr Keri Wong So, I think there are several key take-aways from these workshops that would probably inform Researchers and practitioners, as well. So, from the Researcher side of things, you know, our workshops really highlighted the importance of listening to young people. You know, I would even say, you know, the process of asking young people I think is also important, keeping them as – in the centre of focus, ensuring that whatever we’re creating for them is actually directly coming from their suggestions. So, I think it has to be very young person-centred.
And the second thing is the co-production process, obviously. I would say we could've also done a bit better in terms of embedding young people’s voices throughout our research project a lot more, so involving them at every stage of the project, even at the inception stage, would be most helpful. And then, finally, you know, attendance obviously is definitely something we were concerned about, and certainly, I think, in the future, if we were to do this again, being able to co-produce a better marketing strategy, whereby we’re able to recruit more young people through existing infrastructures, existing networks and contacts, that would be a great improvement, as well.
And then a key point for practitioners, our study really showed how valuable it was for us to create these safe spaces for young people to share their experiences. Oftentimes this might be directly in their community and in community centres, or maybe even in their schools, where they are familiar with the environment, as well. So, I think that’s definitely a consideration for practitioners to think about when, you know, thinking about how to best engage young people on topics of mental health.
Jasmine Lee I think a really important point is to collaborate with charities or youth hubs or youth clubs, organisations, that are already working with young people, because a lot of the time, it’s very difficult to just through your own social media channels, recruit young people, especially those who don’t normally participate in research from specific communities that may be more difficult to reach. And so, it’s really important to collaborate with charities who already work with these young people and to meet them in the spaces where they already are, rather than expecting them to come out to meet you elsewhere. So, I think working with youth clubs, for instance, really helped us with recruitment.
Sude Isil Bastug Building onto that, to what Jasmine has just said, I think it would be really good if, as Researchers or as partners, if you take your time to better understand the inner workings of your partner institution. Net – and how, like, their networks, it would be easier to maximise participation from young people, as well, because you may identify departments in the – your partner that can work directly with young people with similar aims.
Dr Keri Wong I guess I’ll add to that. I think super important to go directly to – into the community. I think oftentimes Researchers, practitioners, even, might not be on the ground so much, and actually being in the community, spending time to build the rapport that is necessary to work with young people, with key stakeholders as well, early on in the process, is very important in ensuring the success of the partnership, as well. Areeb Ahmed And I would say just through the advertising, if you advertise it as, like, an opportunity with merit and selectiveness and that it will bring good for you, a lot of young people would go for it, especially within an age range of, like, later secondary school to, even, like, university students. As they’ll be able to – they’ll see that it carries a bit of merit, and they’ll be able to use that to the best of their ability within whatever they may need.